Paint Colors & LRV: A Color Experts Guide
What’s LRV & why does it matter?
Have you ever painted your room only to find it looks lighter or darker than you thought it would?
That, my friend, is LRV (Light Reflectance Value).
Before we get into the guts n’ the glory, let me say it took nine hours, three bottles, and 22+ years of experience to research and write this article. And I’m not even remotely scientifically inclined (more artsy-fartsy inclined).
So, let’s grab a glass bottle of wine and settle down for a bit of a read – just because I’m keeping it simple doesn’t mean I’m keeping it SHORT!
WHAT DOES LRV MEAN FOR PAINT COLORS?
Every paint color has an LRV (Light Reflectance Value) on a scale from 0 (black) to 100 (white). This number indicates how light or dark a paint color is compared to pure black (LRV = 0) and pure white (LRV = 100).
A paint color’s LRV tells you its DEPTH (i.e., white, light, medium, dark). You can narrow down your options considerably when you know the LRV range you want your paint color to be in.
That’s right, you no longer have to reference a paint color’s depth vaguely, e.g., ‘it’s light, or it’s dark’—you can state its EXACT depth. While there’s more that goes into it/science, you’re not here for that (if you are, you’re definitely in the wrong place).
Benjamin Moore White Dove (below) is a white paint with an LRV of 83.16. This LRV reflects a lot of light, as shown on the left side of this photo…
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However, note the difference in appearance on the right side of the photo, where the walls receive indirect light.
The above is a great example of a color with a reasonably high LRV (83) that uses the natural light it’s given and bounces it around. Alternatively, look at the lower stairwell to see how it reacts when it isn’t given a lot of light to play with.
Colors need LIGHT to come to LIFE!
In other words, don’t expect a color to be a miracle worker if you don’t have enough lighting.
THE ACTUAL ‘USEABLE’ LRV SCALE (for us real people)
While the scale technically goes to 100, in terms of the non-scientific (residential/commercial) paint world, white reaches an LRV of 94 – that’s the whitest white available. This scale goes down to 0 (scientifically), mid-twos are the lowest LRV/blackest colors available in our usable paint world.
Remember, you don’t need to memorize ALL of this (unless you’re a glutton for pushishment). Just take the info that applies to the color/color range(s) you’re exploring and use it to find your best shade!
These numbers will give you a good idea of a color’s depth (how light or dark it is). The ranges below are approximate (two to three points or so) as the lines are blurry (maybe because I’ve had two glasses of wine).
KYLIE M’S LRV SCALE
Others might group depths differently. However, 10,000+ consultations (in-home and online) 25+ years of research, plus 600+ blog posts have led me to conclude the following…
2-10 = DARK PAINT COLOR
10-20 = MEDIUM-DARK PAINT COLOR
20-40 = MEDIUM-DEPTH PAINT COLOR
40-55 = LIGHT-MEDIUM COLOR
55-72 = LIGHT COLOR
73-81 = OFF-WHITE COLOR
82-94 = WHITE PAINT COLOR (with exceptions)
What are these exceptions? Well, some colors have high LRVs, but still have a lot of COLOR (chroma). This means they’re too colorful to be white. These colors often offer a super light, subtle pastel look (and very few of them are even remotely popular, so I don’t focus on them).
MOVING ALONG!
Check out this cute bathroom…
- Benjamin Moore’s White Dove is on the walls, trims, and ceiling. Its LRV is 83.16, which, along with its low degree of color (chroma) makes it a white.
- Sherwin Williams Network Gray is on the lower walls and vanity. Its LRV is 37, which means it falls in the medium range and reflects less light.
- The difference you see in depth between these two colors is represented by their higher vs. lower LRV numbers—cool, eh?
Now, check out Sherwin Williams Rock Bottom. It has an LRV of 7, meaning it’s a DARK paint color and reflects very little light.
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WHERE DO YOU FIND A PAINT COLOR’S LRV NUMBER?
Given how important LRV is to the average paint buyer, I’m surprised some paint companies haven’t made it easier to find.
Here’s where you’ll find the LRVs for a few popular paint brands (or ask a store employee)…
- SHERWIN WILLIAMS LRVs: On the back of each color in the fan deck or on the back of each independent color chip. They also have it listed in the fan deck index and online – thank you, Sherwin Williams!
- BENJAMIN MOORE’S LRVs: On the Benjamin Moore website (on that specific color’s page), as well as in the fan deck index.
- FARROW & BALL’S LRVs: They don’t make it easy; you’ll want to write customer service – and good luck with that – thanks for comin’ out F&B
- VALSPAR’S LRVs: Fan deck index
- BEHR’S LRVs: Fan deck index
Here’s what it looks like on the back of the Sherwin William’s color strip (the long row of colors in the fan deck OR on the small samples found in-store)…
And in the index of the Benjamin Moore fan deck…
Wine break. Glug glug glug, I mean sip sip sip. And no, I don’t drink THAT much, it’s just a hobby.
Now, let’s discuss the actual LRV ranges. Again, this is not scientific (others are better at that than me); it’s just a general reference.
WHITE PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX. 82+
White paint colors have the highest Light Reflectance Value (LRV) and reflect the most light. The range is from 82 to 94, knowing we don’t have access to whites above 94.
On a side note, just because a color has the word ‘WHITE’ its name (or gray, or beige, or whatever), doesn’t mean it’s white #neverjudgeacolorbyitsname
For example, let’s say you’re trying to find the perfect white paint color for your trims, walls, or cabinets, but you’re comparing several and can’t tell which is lighter. Look at their LRVs, and you’ll know EXACTLY which is the brightest white. From there, compare undertones to see which settles best.
Sherwin Williams Pure White LRV 84 | Sherwin Williams Sensible Hue LRV 46
When you eyeball the whites in this next photo, the only one that’s obviously darker is the sample on the bottom…
Rather than eyballing it, let’s look at their LRVs to see where they stand…
- TOP: Sherwin Williams High Reflective White LRV 93
- 2ND DOWN: Benjamin Moore Super White LRV 87.36
- 3RD DOWN: Benjamin Moore Chantilly Lace LRV 90.04
- BOTTOM: Benjamin Moore Decorator’s White LRV 82.68
Crazy, eh? The shift in these numbers might not seem huge, but on a large scale, you see these LRVs come into play – when there’s more wall space for the color to come to life.
Benjamin Moore White Dove LRV 83.16 | Antique Pewter LRV 25.4
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WHY DOES WHITE OR OFF-WHITE LOOK DINGY IN MY ROOM?
If you choose a paint color with a higher LRV, hoping to make your room look lighter and brighter, but it contains too much gray, it may not fix your problem.
At this point, it’s not about the LRV; you chose a grayish color that’s naturally a bit dingy.
In the next photo, while Benjamin Moore’s White Dove is a popular shade of white (LRV 83.6), notice how it shifts on the upper part of the walls compared to the areas that get natural light – some might call this effect dingy…
The cabinets are Benjamin Moore Chantilly Lace
Personally, I think it has a pretty softness, but if you expect more from your white, you need to clean it up (which can mean more undertone, e.g., yellow or a higher LRV).
Another reason White Dove can look a bit dirty or dingy is that it has less color (lower chromaticity), which means it can pick up more colors from its surroundings. So, give it a room with low natural light and shade, and it can look dingy.
HOW TO PREVENT DINGY/DIRTY-LOOKING PAINT COLORS
If colors still look dingy in the higher LRVs, you have a few options…
- Improve your interior lighting with the right Kelvins, table lamps, floor lamps, and white lamp shades.
- Choose colors with less gray and more color/undertones. Remember, even whites have gray, and most popular off-whites do too.
- Choose a nice, clean white trim to contrast with your color.
A SUMMARY OF WHITE PAINT COLORS
- The LRVs of white paint colors range from approx. 82 to 94.
- White paint colors don’t just reflect light; whites with less ‘color’ or undertone will reflect the color of the light they’re exposed to. For example, if grass or trees outside your window reflect on your wall, it can pick up some of that green hue.
- Just because a color is in the white range doesn’t mean it won’t have undertones—learn about undertones.
OFF-WHITE PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX. 73-81
Off-white paint colors have LRVs between 73 and 81. The closer a paint color’s LRV gets to 82, the whiter it appears (with exceptions for colors with a lot of color/chroma, like a super bright, light yellow).
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For example, Sherwin William’s Creamy has an LRV of 81—this LRV puts it on the edge of the white range, making it open to perception. In this staircase (below), Creamy looks warm and white, thanks to the natural light from the east-facing window.
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However, notice how different Creamy looks down near the carpet/landing on the same staircase.
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In the above photo, Creamy looks less like a warm white and more like an off-white (which it is).
Why?
- Because it doesn’t receive as much natural light to reflect.
- It has a brighter white trim to contrast with.
Another beautiful off-white is Sherwin Williams Aesthetic White. Aesthetic White has an LRV of 73, meaning it’s near the dark end of the off-white range and closer to the light range (which runs approx. 55-72)…
Color Review: Sherwin Williams Aesthetic White
Being a darker shade of off-white than Creamy, you’ll see the contrast between Aesthetic White and white trim or cabinets much more easily.
Sherwin Williams White Duck (LRV 74)
A SUMMARY OF OFF-WHITE PAINT COLORS
- Off-white paint colors have LRVs between 73 and 81 (approx).
- Even though off-whites don’t reflect as much light as whites, they will still wash out in bright rooms.
- Off-whites are popular for resale and as ‘whole home’ paint color options – not too dark, not too light – just right.
- Cool off-white paint colors aren’t remotely popular; only warm off-whites are. That said, if you don’t care about popularity, go ahead and fill your lil’ cool boots!
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LIGHT DEPTH PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX. 55-72
Light-depth paint colors have an LRV (Light Reflectance Value) between 55 and 72. Many of today’s most popular paint colors sit between 60 and 74. Exactly HOW light or dark a color looks depends on how much light your room gets. For example, a room with tons of natural light could make an LRV of 65 look more like 75.
Sherwin Williams Natural Linen (LRV 66)
If you have a dark room, the lack of light could make an LRV of 70 look more like 60.
Sherwin Williams Agreeable Gray has an LRV of 60, which is a great depth start if you’re unsure what you’re doing (you’ll likely want to go lighter from there rather than darker).
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In the above image, notice how Agreeable Gray appears on each wall space; it’s lighter on the top-right wall and more clay-like and darker around the door.
Why does this matter?
You might want to adjust your LRV range to higher or lower, depending on how light or dark your room is as a whole.
The light-depth range is the most POPULAR for the average home, especially this specific LRV range.
A SUMMARY OF LIGHT-DEPTH PAINT COLORS
- Light-depth colors have LRVs between 55 and 72.
- Even though light-depth paint colors have lower LRVs (compared to whites and off-whites), they can still wash out with direct hits of natural light.
- In a poorly lit room, some light colors can look flat and drab and won’t come to life – lighten up, Buttercup (with light bulbs).
- In a well-lit room, a color with a high LRV can wash out where it gets direct hits of light. Just remember that this changes a lot as the day progresses, and you have to humor the rest of the walls, too, which may be more shaded.
The next staircase is painted Benjamin Moore Collingwood, with an LRV of 61.52. Even with an LRV of almost 62, it washes out in direct bright light…
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If you have a bright room and pair it with a lighter color (usually 55+ is where you’ll start seeing the reflective effect), you’ll have a lot of light bouncing around, as shown in the curved part of the staircase wall above.
Why?
Not only are you giving your walls a lot of light to work with, but you’ve also chosen a paint color that reflects light, as it has a higher LRV.
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LIGHT-MEDIUM DEPTH PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX. 40-55
Many consultants jump from light to medium, but there’s a HUUUUGE gap in the middle of colors that don’t read as either!
My next Online Color Consulting client was sampling exterior colors with a range of LRVs…
The most important ones for this section are Requisite Gray (45), Versatile Gray (48), Comfort Gray (54), Imperial Gray (46), and Oyster Bay (44).
While Comfort Gray falls within the same light-medium range as the others, it’s in the higher/lighter end of the range.
Did I go too far? STORY OF MY LIFE! Let’s carry on.
As shown in the next photo, a light-medium-depth color like Sherwin Williams Anew Gray offers a nice contrast with the right white trim color.
Light-medium paint colors are also a great starting point when considering exterior colors.
Why?
Natural light can really wash out exterior colors, more so than in the average room.
This is why starting your exterior color journey in the light-medium range can be a great idea.
While you might then choose to go lighter or darker, this range is a good starting point, as shown again with Sherwin Williams Anew Gray…
Seriously, look at the difference between the lower half of the siding and the upper half.
A SUMMARY OF THE LIGHT-MEDIUM PAINT COLORS
- Light-medium paint colors have an LRV between 40 and 55.
- Paint colors in the light-medium range hold up a bit better in super bright rooms. They’ll look lighter where the light hits, but won’t wash out as much as whites, off-whites, and light-depth paint colors.
- The light-medium depth is ideal for those who want to showcase moldings or create more contrast between their walls and trim.
- This depth is popular for ‘whole homes‘, but not as hot as off-white and light depths.
MEDIUM-DEPTH PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX. 20-40
Medium-depth paint colors have LRVs between 20 and 40. The lower the LRV, the darker the color.
Sherwin Williams Dovetail is shown on this next kitchen island (LRV 26) with Agreeable Gray on the walls (LRV 60)…
Even a medium-range paint color will lighten up when given some light to work with (as shown below). Remember, every paint color has light reflectance (even dark ones).
Notice how Foggy Day (20) lightens on the left and darkens down the hallway.
A SUMMARY OF MEDIUM-DEPTH PAINT COLORS
- Medium-depth colors fall within 20 to 40 (LRV, approx).
- Light-medium and medium-depth colors are great for super bright rooms. ANY paint color will look lighter when light hits it, but the darker a color is, the more it will stand up to an overly bright space.
- This range is popular for accent and feature walls, as well as exteriors, but it can look amazing on all the walls in a room.
- Paint colors with medium-range LRVs reflect a moderate amount of light, especially in the middle of the range.
- In a poorly lit room, medium-range LRVs can look flat and drab, especially neutral ones.
- In a room with poor lighting, paint colors in the medium range will take ANY light they can and reflect it into the space, but don’t expect any screamin’ glory. If you don’t want to choose a lighter color, consider a paint color with more color/vibrancy/less neutral to help counteract the shade vs. going with a more standard neutral paint color.
This next room is painted with Sherwin Williams Retreat, which has an LRV of 21. This puts it between the medium and medium-dark range. If you like colors in this range, you might look for colors with LRVs between, say, 15 and 25.
Sherwin Williams Retreat Color Review
MEDIUM-DARK PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX 10-20
Just as with light-medium depth paint colors, medium-dark paint colors are the ‘happy mediums’—literally, between the medium-depths and the dark range.
Benjamin Moore Amherst Gray (shown below with one of the best warm white paint colors on the cabinets) is a medium-dark gray.
Notice how Amherst Gray appears darker at the top of the wall, but brightens where the light hits.
Why?
Although its LRV is lower, it still reflects light. This means that when hit with light, a color like Amherst Gray will reflect some light back!
Remember, dark paint colors reflect light too!
SW Night Owl (13) | SW Attitude Gray (20) | SW Cityscape (22)
Check out the above samples. Notice how Night Owl, with its LRV of 13, is visibly darker than the medium-depths of Attitude Gray and Cityscape (although they definitely wink at the medium-dark range).
A SUMMARY OF MEDIUM-DARK PAINT COLORS
- The medium-dark range runs from approx. 10-20 (LRV)
- Medium-dark colors are darker than the average medium-depth paint color.
- Medium-depth colors don’t have the (sometimes intimidating) depth of traditional DARK paint colors.
- These darker shades are super popular on feature and accent walls.
- Medium-darks are also found on kitchen cabinets, but are far more popular on painted kitchen islands.
- Exteriors look amazing in medium-dark shades, as many of the top shades complement the brick and stonework, as well as white trim.
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DARK PAINT COLORS & LRV
APPROX 2-10
These are the heavy hitters. While not all of these are black, once you get under 6, be ready for a wickedly dark color.
Sherwin Williams Cyberspace (below) is skookum with an LRV of 6. In a well-lit space, this color can look soft, stunning, lighter, and more colorful as the undertones come up. However, in a low-light room, it can appear closer to black and lose some of its color/hue.
In fact, dark colors can almost look blackish in dark rooms.
This next room shows Cyberspace again. Notice how it changes in color and depth from left to right based on the amount of light it receives…
Compare the wall space on the far left with that on the far right. No light = no reflective value.
Paint Color Review of Sherwin Williams Cyberspace
Sherwin Williams Gauntlet Gray (LRV 17) is another popular dark, warm gray paint color…
Color Review of Sherwin Williams Gauntlet Gray
As for black, one of my favorite shades is soft black called Iron Ore, coming in hot with an LRV of 6. Check it out at the end of this kitchen island…
- Compare the end of the island to the range hood: the island gets light and reflects it; the range hood doesn’t.
Cool, eh?
Here’s Iron Ore looking badass and beautiful again…
- The left side of the built-in cabinets gets direct light, making Iron Ore look lighter.
- The right side gets minimal light, making Iron Ore look more ‘black’ than soft black.
Now, let’s go big or go home with Sherwin Williams Tricorn Black, and it’s wickedly low LRV of 3…
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A SUMMARY OF DARK PAINT COLORS
- Paint colors with a lower LRV will reflect some light, but not tons. If a color’s LRV is 10, it will absorb a lot of light and reflect a smaller amount. If you want a dark color to look lighter, give it a lot of light.
- IN A DARK ROOM, dark color won’t come to life and won’t reflect light (as it hasn’t been given any, and it has a low LRV to boot, double-whammy).
- Dark paint colors are super popular on accent walls.
- While some paint their kitchen cabinets a dark color, they’re far more popular on painted kitchen islands.
- Front doors (inside and outside) can look striking in a well-chosen dark paint color.
- While exteriors can be painted dark colors, remember that they absorb more light and can fade a lot faster.
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
LRV isn’t an easy idea to wrap the ‘ole noggin’ around, and you probably have questions. If I don’t answer them below or in this blog post – leave a comment!
WHAT’S THE BEST LRV FOR A DARK ROOM?
Choosing a light paint color may be better for a dark room if you want to brighten it, but it won’t save the day—you need actual light for the paint color to play off and reflect.
One way to add brightness to a dark room, along with LRV, is to choose a color with more chroma/color vs. a more standard neutral paint color (and improve your lighting).
The next photo shows a room painted in one of the most timeless, neutral paint colors: Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter. Notice that there isn’t much light, which affects how Revere Pewter looks—its LRV isn’t being used very well.
In this next photo, the bedroom is painted in Revere Pewter (not the bathroom)…
Paint Color Review of Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter
- The above room has a good amount of natural light on the left side, making Revere Pewter look just right (the bathroom is Wickham Gray).
- On the right side of the photo (outside the bathroom entrance), there’s less natural light, and Revere Pewter looks darker.
This example shows how a neutral that appears perfect in a well-lit space can look drab and dingy in a low-light room, even with a moderate LRV of 55.51.
We need to lighten up, baby!
And to answer your question about the best LRV for a darker room…
- Paint colors with an LRV of 74 or higher.
- Consider how much gray vs how much color your chosen shade has. Even a high-LRV color with a decent gray or beige base can look dingy. Consider a bit more ‘color’ vs less.
WILL NATURAL LIGHT CHANGE MY PAINT COLOR’S LRV?
Natural light won’t affect your paint color’s LRV; it is what it is. However, the more light you give a color, the more light it will reflect, especially if it has a higher LRV.
This dining room (below) is painted Sherwin Williams North Star, which has an LRV of 62. Because the room has a lot of natural light, North Star looks a bit brighter than expected, however…
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The walls in the staircase are painted Sherwin-Williams Pearly White, (LRV of 77). Because the staircase doesn’t get as much natural light, the walls look darker than the dining room, even though Pearly White’s LRV is considerably higher!
Colors with higher LRVs reflect MORE light; colors with lower LRVs reflect LESS light. But if you don’t GIVE them light, it won’t matter.
So, even if you pick a light color with a high LRV, if you don’t give it light to reflect, it won’t rise to the occasion, which goes back to one of my favorite sayings (I have about 80)…
No paint color will save you if you don’t have enough natural or artificial light.
But, of course, there are those (like myself) who aren’t afraid of a dark color in a dark space – in which case, fill yer lil’ moody boots!
WHEN YOU LIGHTEN OR DARKEN A PAINT COLOR, DOES ITS LRV CHANGE?
HECK YES, it does. Any change you make to a paint color will alter its roots, and the LRV will increase or decrease, depending on the extent of the change.
Read more right here… LRV, Paint Colors & YOU.
When you lighten or darken a color, you’re creating a new color. While it might have similar roots, its DNA has changed. MOST times, you get a ‘lighter version of what you started with,’ but sometimes, the undertones change more noticeably – it depends on which tints were used to make the original color.
I have several lightened and darkened paint colors in my home. I’m a big fan of tweaking colors to get the look I want.
WHAT’S A GOOD LRV?
Here are some basic guidelines to consider. Keep in mind that these are just starting points. If you want a different look, it might be outside of these ranges.
- THE AVERAGE SINGLE ROOM: LRV 60-70
- FOR EVERY ROOM IN AN ENTIRE HOME (PAINTED 1 COLOR): 65-75
- KITCHEN CABINETS: LRV 82-94 (or 45 and lower)
- FEATURE WALL: ANYWHERE FROM 2 (black) to 50, BUT 30 IS A GOOD AVERAGE
- EXTERIOR: 35-60
- FRONT DOOR: APPROX. LRV 10 – 20
Again, the above numbers can vary; these are just good baselines for your color journey.
In this home bar, my client wanted a moody atmosphere, as she called it her ‘bat cave’. But at the same time, we didn’t want it to look too heavy…
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We settled on Sherwin Williams Still Water LRV 10 as the perfect dark blue-green blend. Also, notice how much I love it when my clients know my personal tastes, if you know what I’m sayin’…
On the other hand, this hallway has a range of light, from no natural light to an adequate amount…
Paint Color Review of Sherwin Williams Antique White
We settled on Sherwin Williams Antique White (LRV 72) to add warmth and interest in the dark areas without making the lighter areas too yellow or overwhelming.
WHAT’S CONSIDERED A HIGH LRV?
The higher the LRV number, the lighter the paint color. Paint colors with LRVs of 74+ (off-white and white paint colors) are considered HIGH LRVs.
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So there you have it – LRV in a big, fat nutshell.
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So, kind of a side question that I thought LRV might address, but doesn’t (now that I’ve read your article)…So, LRV addresses the differences between lights and darks. What is the technical difference between a neutral (with a color undertone) and a color with a (gray or whatever undertone)?
Oh Greer, I LOVE YOU – no one has ever asked that before! I’m actually writing a course right now and talk about this exact topic in it. The short story is that there IS no definitive line and is VERY OPEN to perception, which is why it’s SO HARD! For example, a lot of people look at a colour like BM Puritan Gray and see it as ‘gray with undertones’, but I’ve had clients find it not gray enough and see too much blue-green. For me, it’s about what’s the OVERTONE or MASS COLOUR – the one you automatically see first when you look at the walls. Again, open to perception, but if you just SEE BLUE, then it’s probably too colourful for you. However, if it could easily pass as gray, then you might be closer to the ‘gray with undertones range’.
Does that help AT ALL???? Any thoughts you have just holler as it just makes me think harder!
Hi Kylie. I’m trying to choose between BM Balboa Mist (LRV 67) and Collingwood (LRV 62). How much of a difference will 5 points make in a 2 story foyer where the 2nd story does not have a lot of natural light?
Well, you will notice a shift between the two! For a LOWER light area, I would lean towards Balboa because it is that bit lighter and softer :).
What color is on the cabinet in the Classic Gray picture? Thank you, Kate
Hi Kate, that’s Benjamin Moore MEtropolis 🙂
Do you have a blog that lists the Benjamin Moore colors with a LRV of your magic number “62”? Or a list of colors within the magic range?
Ooooo, say no, that’s a GREAT idea!
Off the top, BM Collingwood, SW Big Chill, SW On the Rocks, SW Agreeable Gray – just a few to get you started!
Kylie! My friend, it’s been a long time! I have to say, this article is everything. Explaining LRV is nearly impossible….honestly, after decades in the business, I still haven’t wrapped my brain around it, but this is THE ARTICLE to start that brain-wrapping process. I love your writing style and LITERALLY laughed out loud at “glug glug glug … I mean, sip sip sip”. You are the best of the best!!
JENNY, this is such an awesome comment – THANK YOU! Yes, I know LRV is kind of MIND-boggling, but it’s like once you get it, you never look at paint colours the same AGAIN! And I’m glad you think I’m funny, I tell my husband and kids that I’m funny all the time and they’re like ‘ermmm, no’.
Hey Kylie! So glad i stumbled on your post what PERFECT timing OMG! I have a new build i just moved into with very low grade, stark white awful paint that does nothing for my house and honestly it’s so ugly it might just be primer🫤. It’s dreadful and not full of life. Though i personaly love the white walls i have been SO torn between Chantilly Lace & Simply white to repaint it. Is there one you prefer more? I would like to keep the white but the white they used is all wrong and makes it feel very stale vs cozy plus i have kids so i want nice, cozy feel that would bring out that beachy look we desire with all our wood tones. “Most” rooms get natural light throughout the day as the sun changes so i am really stuck on which color would make it feel like home vs a builder grade home.
Also….i am planning on painting the exterior of my house white as i love the beach cottage looks there too but i am wondering if the LRV matters on the exterior like it does the interior? Can you tell me if this rule still applies.
I was looking at either Pure White or Snowbound (this will be going over a taupe color house) but after reading your post i am not sure if the LRV matters for outdoors also so it’s not blinding vs beautiful. I have a South facing home and would love a little help before i make a HUGE expensive mistake. Help please! Thank you so much 😊
Hey Shawna, I can’t answer ALL of your questions, but Chantilly ‘can’ be a bit ‘white white’ and Simply White can come up a touch yellow – both have their place, but when I’m looking at a WHOLE HOME white, it’s often SW Pure White that comes up as it often suits more interior hard finishes (ie. countertop).
As for the exterior, whites tend to look that BIT whiter, depending on how MUCH light you get, but generally – they’re pretty white. A lot of my clients are shifting to a slightly softer look, like BM White Dove (even Pure White is a bit soft too, creating a nice look). It really all depends on the AMOUNT of light you get as even an off-white could look QUITE BRIGHT!
Hi Kylie,
I just bought my first home and stumbled across your blog while researching white paint options. I’ve been doing a deep dive in to your posts and it’s been so helpful. I would love know what the paint colors are from the thumbnail image on this post.
Also do you have any posts about coordinating paints colors with exotic hardwood floors?
Thank you,
Jennifer
Hello Kylie, this article on LRV is fantastic!! I have been a painting contractor for 40 years. I study paint. It’s composition, what the included different ingredients do & how they react to each other. I am just starting to study LRVs and SRI (solar reflective Index) and you have done LRVs very thoroughly and explained it in layman’s terms (maybe the sip,🍷 sip,🍷 gulp 🍾helped in your writing ✍️.)
Thank you for your time & work!
Jeff, thank you so much for this! I’m SO not scientifically-minded, yet SUPER passionate about paint – THANK YOU!
Hi Kylie! I’m experiencing the vast array of whites for the first time! Yikes! I had kitchen cabinets painted in Benjamin Moore “Calm-OC22” LRV of 77. Thinking of selecting another white on the walls throughout the living room, dining area and kitchen. I’m in a small condo, southern exposure, with very little light. I have a medium brown maple floor & painted baseboards in Calm. I love the serenity and elegance of taupe. Don’t know what direction to go in, if you can offer a tip. Thank you very much. I learn a lot from you! — Jean
Hi Jean! Calm is actually an off-white with a reasonable viole tundertone, which can make it tricky! Sometimes the best thing to do is the same color on the walls/trims, I would GREATLY HESITATE to go outside of that. I suppose you could look at BM Chantilly lace for the walls, but it coudl enhance the violet in Calm :).
The last several times I have looked at your site for advice, I could not take in the content because there are such large banner ads – top and bottom – that there is little screen left for content. Add the constant moving from ads makes it impossible to concentrate. I will be leaving now. Sorry this is so.
Hey Deb, I appreciate your comments! It’s a tough line to follow as I can’t write for free. Ads are how I support my family and without them, I can’t write. I try to find a happy medium for myself and for the FREE content that I offer readers :). Back in the day you’d have to buy a book or a magazine – or hire a designer for hundreds of dollars!
What a wonderful article – FYI Encycolorpedia gives the LRV of paints which will save hunting fan decks and calling customer service. Our Southern African paint stores haven’t started including LRV anywhere but this has helped me find it.
What would you say is a good “gap” in LRV between a house colour and trim? We are putting a light putty colour on the main body of the house (LRV 65) and are looking at coloured trim to go with it. A color with a similar depth looks like it could not offer enough contrast as it will differ in tone but not depth. What are your thoughts on the pairings?
Thank you.
Hey Tessa, I love Encycolorpedia too, it’s super helpful! As for gap in LRV for exteriors, for the average application, based on the house being 65, I’d love to see approx. 15 points (or more). However, if you’re looking for a more subtle tone-on-tone look, 10 points would be the start 🙂
Hi Kylie,
Thank you for this article, it’s nice to see the grouping and it explains why I’ve been struggling so much to get a colour combo. I’m trying to do a contrasting board and batten wall in “off whites” in my little bathroom. I laughed when I read this article I realized that off white is pretty darn relative and that’s why I’m failing miserably. The room has very little natural light but lots of artificial light that’s unfortunately giving a red cast to grieges. Can you tell me how much difference you need between lrv to create a noticeable but not strong contrast.
Well, it can depend on the exact color combo, but I’d say 10 is a place to START. For example, if I started with something like SW Aesthetic White, which is an off-white, I might look at Pure White for a noticeable, but not remotely shocking shift. Aesthetic White is 73, Pure White 84. Also, have you tried changing your bulb’s Kelvins to get a better read on things?
Another thing to try is to find a color that’s around 70-75. Get samples made 50% lighter and 75% lighter and see which contrast you like the most (knowing they’ll still be relatively subtle). Now you need to be careful as undertones DO shift around – some colors work like a dream, some change too much with this. I’ve had a lot of success!
Closets? Not walk in. I’m assuming a higher LRV but deciding on closet paint color. Of course white but 75 whites later it’s confusing. Undertones I’m picking what will go with my color scheme. Now I don’t want a color that alters all other colors.of clothes messing up choosing colors.
I would pick BM Pearl River next Ice Cube Silver, Ice Fog or go safe with White Dove.
Why do your examples all fall pretty much on the grey spectrum. There are some nice warm colours and it would be nice if you would use both warm and cool options for the LRV. I’m so over grey on everything
As usual, the more words in an article like this, the less usable information. Also, it is disrespectful to assume my time has no value.
Oh and o believe you mentioned up front that you were drunk while writing this?
Oh Phil, you sound like a bundle of fun. If you can’t take a joke and don’t like reading, you might want to find another blog to read.
Hi Kylie,
Thank you for your posts, they’re so helpful!
I recently had my entire home painted SW eider white.- new construction.
The color pulled a lot of pink and purple, and made my hardwood floors look really pink! Tried changing between 4 different kelvin’s but artificial light made it worse.
I’m trying to find a clean white for them to repaint a monochromatic ceiling/walls/trim/doors color that won’t make my floors pull the pink or that has noticeable pastel undertones on the walls but I also have a black stained kitchen and a lot of northern & south/ western natural light. Would pure white sw help neutralize my floors or will the higher LRV reflect that to my walls? Will pure white and black stained kitchen be too much contrast?
The floors looked a great neutral white oak in the house when it was primed although they do have a pinkish hue but the Eider made everything intense pastel!
Thank you!
Kristi
Hello! This was extremely helpful. I’m having the most difficult time picking a paint color for my kitchen. My house was built in 1992 so I have the cherry/honey oak everywhere (flooring, cabinets, trim, etc). I recently took down an above-the-island decoration and it changed the lighting completely in here, so now my walls look green because we have very minimal natural light. I’m trying to find a warm, light color that will mute the orange in the wood, without painting the cabinets or the trim. Can you suggest a color?
Hey Tanya, you’ll find some great colors in here! https://www.kylieminteriors.ca/how-to-update-golden-or-honey-oak-cabinets/