Benjamin Moore White Dove: Undertones, Lighting, & Best Uses

Benjamin Moore White Dove is a warm, soft white paint color, and one that I recommend ALL THE TIME to my clients. And it ain’t no one-tricky pony, either. It works well on kitchen cabinets, trim, and interior walls, and is even popular as a whole home paint color. 

However, whites can be the hardest to choose, as on a small scale, their undertones can be hard to discern, leaving you nervous that your walls will be too creamy, too stark, too cold, etc. 

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Thank goodness you found me (just joking…kind of). Seriously, though, learning how White Dove might look in your space is an important part of the process. So, let’s see what quirks White Dove has up its colorful little sleeves (Lord knows, we’ve all got ’em).

Benjamin Moore White Dove on painted cabinets, chevron tile backsplash, Fulgor appliances, Brittania Blue on lower cabinets, white oak floor, stainless

BM WHITE DOVE AT A GLANCE

Here’s a quick summary of some of the information you’ll find in this color review…

  • NAME: BM White Dove OC-17 or PM-19
  • TYPE OF COLOR: Warm, creamy white
  • LRV: 83.16
  • BEST USES: Whole home, single rooms, cabinets, trim
  • WORKS WELL WITH: Wood tones, warm and cool colors
  • WATCH FOR: It can look too creamy next to true whites
  • MY VERDICT: Stay tuned…

Now, giddyup, Sparklefarts, we’re getting this color party started.

IS BENJAMIN MOORE WHITE DOVE A WARM OR COOL WHITE?

White Dove is a warm, soft, creamy white paint color and one of the most popular shades for walls, cabinets, trims, and whole homes.

But while it’s definitely warm and creamyish, most of my clients (thousands who have used it) don’t find it overly creamy or yellow. In all, White Dove is awesome for those who want warmth, but are nervous of too much yellow. We’ll get into undertones shortly.

Most importantly, White Dove is NOT an off-white paint color. It’s a white, just a soft one.

Best height artwork in dining room above buffet.Benjamin More White Dove, warm colours, dining room, skylight. Warm wood furniture and home decor. Kylie M Interiors Edesign

If you have a north-facing room, White Dove can offer a nice soft balance to the gray, cool, natural light. With a south-facing room or a space with afternoon western sunshine, you may find White Dove leaning more into its warmth. 

Does it go too far?

That’s open to perception. At one point, I had 3/4 of my home painted White Dove in rooms with either north, east, or south-facing light (or a combo). I never…ever found it too creamy or warm – and I don’t love obvious yellow (but I do like warm white, so I know I need a little). 

Here’s White Dove in our family room, which has 2 exposures – north (left-side) and south (right-side)…

Benjamin Moore White Dove, bright living room or family room, gray sectional, tv above painted cabinets. Kylie M Interiors Edesign

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THE LRV & DEPTH OF BM WHITE DOVE

According to Benjamin Moore, White Dove has an LRV of 83.16. With this depth, White Dove is a WHITE, not an off-white. However, with this slightly lower LRV, White Dove is softer than many popular, brighter shades of white.

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The white backdrop of the patterned tile floor in this next bathroom helps showcase White Dove’s beautiful, but reasonably passive warmth…

Benjamin Moore White Dove with patterened black and white floor tile, vintage look, green-black vertical subway tile in shower, moody, wood vanity

With this type of depth (LRV), as well as its reduced color (low chroma), White Dove is great for those who want a commitment to white, without it looking stark, harsh, or cold.

WHITE DOVE’S UNDERTONES

Many people turn to White Dove expecting ‘a relatively true white’. No such luck, Chuck. White Dove definitely leans warm, and that warm hue is a soft, subtle yellow. In fact, in the wild and wonderful world of whites, it offers one of the most balanced approaches to that undertone (minimal yellow-green or yellow-pink). 

Of course, by pink, that’s actually red (color science), but the light version of red is pink. 

Along with yellow, you’ll find a dash of gray. Whereas some warm whites have less gray, so the yellow pops more, White Dove’s gray creates a calming, creamy yellow hue.

small bathroom with walk in shower, white subway tile, Sherwin Williams RAinwashed paint color on walls, lightened White Dove trim, patterned shower curtain. north facing

White Dove’s warmth grows next to a beautiful blue-gray like Rainwashed

If you aren’t really sure what undertones are, it’s a term that helps describe how a color may lean. Keep in mind that this will change in different lighting conditions.

Here’s your Peel & Stick sample of White Dove

benjamin moore white dove samplize peel and stick

IS WHITE DOVE TOO YELLOW?

Yes, if you’re overly sensitive to yellow, you might find it a bit too warm. However, if you understand that the best and only way to get a beautiful warmth in a white is via yellow, then you might just be okay (albeit some very minor twitching – insert wine HERE).

White Dove is in the dining room (below) on the wainscoting, trim, and front doors…

dining room with Benjamin Moore White Dove ceiling, trim, and wainscoting. Sherwin Williams Worldly Gray greige paint color on walls, home decor, transitional

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The key is not to pair it with a white that’s whiter than it, as that will showcase its warmth and yellow undertones.

family room or living room, white slipcovered sofa, leather chair, Benjamin Moore White Dove walls, trim, tray ceiling

They were smart to make all the white surfaces the same shade.

One way to help White Dove not look too creamy (if you’re worried) is to make sure you pair it with the right finishes and surrounding colors. 

4 REASONS WHITE DOVE MIGHT APPEAR TOO CREAMY IN YOUR HOME

  1. Using it as a cabinet color when you have white appliances or GE Cafe White
  2. Pairing it with a cool-toned marble – some marbles appreciate its warmth, others don’t. 
  3. Using it as a cabinet or wall color when you have a ‘standard’ white subway tile backsplash or shower surround 
  4. White Dove can appear even warmer in south-facing light (and western afternoon sun) and grab more yellow, but so can many whites—south-facing and western afternoon light are powerful. Heck, even in northern light, it can do this sometimes. That’s why you HAVE to sample it carefully in your space.

In this next photo, notice the warmth of the sun coming in from the room on the left (and how warm White Dove looks). However, from the center towards the right, that warmth dies off considerably.

BENJAMIN MOORE WHITE DOVE, SHIPLAP PANELLING ACCENT WALL IN DINING ROOM, PINE BUFFET AND HUTCH, KYLIE M ONLINE PAINT COLOR EXPERT (1)

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Here’s the other side of the previously shown room (below). Notice how its look changes from wall to wall – ahhhhh the glory of white!

Benjamin Moore White Dove horizontal shiplap accent wall in dining room, pine wood floors, pine buffet and hutche, white trinm and ceilings. Kylie M, online expert paint color consulting

WILL WHITE DOVE LOOK DINGY OR DIRTY?

White Dove isn’t an overly dirty color at heart, although it does have some gray. HOWEVAAAAH, if you don’t have gray (black), you risk seeing more yellow. There can be a fineline between a color that seems dingy and one that’s too creamy-looking. This is why I love White Dove as it does a great job – hugging the ample bosom between these 2 worlds. 

3 REASONS WHITE DOVE MIGHT APPEAR DINGY IN YOUR ROOM

  1. You’re comparing it to, or comparing it with a cleaner, but still warm shade of white – one that has more yellow and less gray. This includes paint colors and finishes, such as tile and countertops.
  2. You don’t have enough natural light. Regardless of your exposure, if your room is too dark, NO COLOR will come to life, especially one that has some gray. 

Benjamin Moore Gossamer Veil in guest bedroom, white metal headboard, blue gray accents, White Dove shiplap accent wall. Kylie M Interiors Edesign

White Dove accent wall with Sherwin Williams Gossamer Veil

WILL WHITE DOVE LOOK GRAY, PINK, GREEN, OR DINGY/DIRTY?

Let’s start with pink and green. The fact that some people see pink in White Dove and others see green goes to show how versatile it can be – and how uncommitted to undertones it truly is. This is because White Dove is pretty darn well-balanced between red and green. 

If your sample of White Dove looks pink or green, it’s probably because…

  • COMPARISON: Colors often ‘seem’ a certain way when compared to others. So, if you’re comparing it with a white that’s more yellow or greenish, it might seem pinkish ‘in comparison’, (even if it’s not).
  • LANDSCAPING: Whether it’s trees, a ton of grass, or nearby landscaping, your exterior can easily reflect onto your interior walls.
  • LIGHT BULBS: Consider adjusting the Kelvins and the quality of your light bulbs and see if your opinion changes. 

Here’s White Dove looking like its badass and beautiful self with a good amount of natural light…

Benjamin Moore White Dove, warm white walls, oak wood flooring

My favorite Kelvins (bulbs) when using Benjamin Moore White Dove is 2700-3000K

As for whether White Dove is too dingy/dirty/gray, this is open to perception. It’s a grounded, more muted, warm white with a touch of gray. This neutral base cuts back on the degree of YELLOW you see. If you clean that up, you’ll see more yellow (i.e., Benjamin Moore Simply White).

BEnjamin MOore White Dove entryway small with a bench, horizontal shiplap with hooks, wood floor, red front door

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Here are a few situations to watch for with White Dove, where it could flash a bit gray or dirty…

  • If you put it next to a cleaner, warmer shade of white (where the yellow undertone is more obvious)
  • Next to a traditional cream paint color (which will likely have more yellow undertone)
  • In a low-light space or dark room

In this next room, White Dove looks slightly grayish in a few areas, but overall, its soft warmth prevails…

Benjamin MOore White Dove, best white paint color for walls, dark gray sectional, orange and blue accents, rug, Sherwin Foggy Day board and batten

White Dove doesn’t want to look gray, being a soft, warm white (it told me so). However, the above things can affect its potential—this is about the surroundings, NOT the paint color itself. If White Dove looks dingy or dirty, you may want to consider a warmer and brighter shade of white (or adjust your interior lighting/Kelvins).

Check out Benjamin Moore White Dove walls in this next room…

Benjamin MOore White Dove textured walls, taupe carpet, Benjamin Moore chantilly Lace built in tv cabinet, crown molding,

This is exceptionally gray for White Dove – it RARELY looks this muted. However, it’s being hit with a triple-whammy (which is also what Tim calls his favorite Friday-night moves)…

  1. This space has a lot of shaded areas
  2. I don’t know the exposure, but it sure as heck doesn’t look warm
  3. It’s very directly contrasting with Benjamin Moore Chantilly Lace on the cabinets and trims.

For a direct, opposite comparison of how warm White Dove can look, take a look at this beautiful home (below)…

Stone fireplace with rustic reclaimed wood mantel, dark wood floor, Benjamin MOore White Dove, warm creamy white on walls, trims, ceiling, color drench.

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With a rustic, modern farmhouse style, White Dove settles in as the perfect soft, warm neutral for walls, trims, ceilings, and doors.

White Dove isn’t a CLEAN white. The cleaner a warm white is, the more yellow you’ll see. This is why White Dove can be a great happy medium between a flatter, duller white and one that’s too yellow. 

White Dove also accommodates a slightly cleaner, simpler look, as shown with these basic shaker-style doors…

Interior doors painted grey, Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter and White Dove, white oak flooring, black hardware. Kylie M Interiors Edesign

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WHAT’S THE BEST TRIM COLOR WITH WHITE DOVE?

  • If you have White Dove walls, consider painting your cabinets and trim White Dove.
  • With White Dove cabinets, your walls and trim should also be White Dove.
  • If you have White Dove trim and want white walls or cabinets, consider painting them White Dove.

Now, one thing that gets my titties in a tussle is that even when you use the same white, you can still get subtle shifts in undertones and temperatures (which drives this lil Ginger even crazier than she already is). This is because the formulation changes depending on the type of paint you use and the sheen/finish. C’est la vie, which is French for MOVING ALONG (it’s not, but all the same).

Maple wood floor, Benjamin Moore White Dove cabinets walls, trims, gray and white granite countertop, cool toned subway tile backsplash, nickel hardware. Kylie M, painted kitchen cabinets

Believe it or not, this is all White Dove – cabinets, walls, & trims! 

If you have White Dove trims, cabinets OR walls, every other white surface should ALSO BE White Dove – don’t switch whites unless you really need/want to.

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WHERE WHITE DOVE DOES (& DOESN’T) WORK BEST

While White Dove is massively flexible and far more than a one-trick pony, it has its limitations and preferences (don’t we all).

To start, let’s summarize the best places to use White Dove, along with those that aren’t so hot.

  • White Dove is one of the best white paint colors for kitchen cabinets, trims, and doors.
  • It’s great as a whole-home paint color, as it works on walls, trim, doors, and ceilings.
  • As an exterior paint color, while it can work on siding/stucco, it’s popular on trims.
  • White Dove works well in single rooms and open-concept spaces. This is because it’s a transitional color that pairs well with a wide range of others (which we’ll look at shortly).
  • It doesn’t work well with most cream cabinets and trims.

Benjamin Moore White Dove painted kitchen wood cabinets, Peale Green island, white quartz, patterned tile marble backsplash, golden oak flooring, Pearly White (Sherwin) walls (1)

Now for the guts n’ the glory…

DOES WHITE DOVE GO WITH WHITE SUBWAY TILE OR APPLIANCES?

HECK no. With very few exceptions, White Dove (as a cabinet color) doesn’t go well with most white subway tiles. The standard subway tile is a bright white – not a soft, warm one. The same goes for white appliances, which tend to be cool white.

Placing White Dove with these finishes can make White Dove look warmer and creamier than you might want.

DOES WHITE DOVE GO WITH OAK CABINETS OR OTHER WOOD FINISHES?

Yes, White Dove can be amazeballs with a wide range of wood cabinets (especially most oaks), another reason it’s one of my ‘best white paint colors‘ for a variety of surfaces.

Take a look at this historic home and its beautiful dark wood trims. A warm white like White Dove is a gorgeous, high-contrast partner…

warm white walls similar to Benjamin Moore White Dove with dark wood trim in heritage home with window trims and wood floor

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It also looks great with wood flooring, as a wall, trim, or cabinet color…

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In particular, I love White Dove with the more ‘brownish’ woods – ones that aren’t overly yellow, orange, red, or pink. All the same, I’ve seen it look downright gorgeous with most.

IS WHITE DOVE GOOD FOR A WHOLE HOME?

A million times, yes, White Dove is a great whole-home choice if you’re looking for simplicity. With this choice, you’ll also want your trims and doors to match, so you don’t end up with a mix-and-match (and potentially fugly) white pairing.

Dining room with church pew for bench, white chairs and table, white oak flooring, BEnjamin Moore White Dove paint color onw alls, ceilings

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WHAT WHITES GO WITH WHITE DOVE?

If you’re hellbent on painting your trims or cabinets a different shade of white, make sure a) your trims and/or cabinets are the brighter white of the two, b) the brighter white isn’t more yellow/cleaner than White Dove.

This will likely lead you to Benjamin Moore Chantilly Lace or Sherwin Williams White Snow. Please note that using this method for your walls and trims will make White Dove appear creamier than it might normally, and less like white.

Best white paint colours, Benjamin Moore Oxford White and White Dove trim and walls, gray carpet, stairs. Kylie M Interiors Edesign, online paint color expert (3)

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WHAT COLORS ARE SIMILAR TO BENJAMIN MOORE WHITE DOVE?

When it comes to white paint colors, it can be hard to find ‘comparable whites’ between brands, and you should NEVER color-match. Trust me, I’ve tried, as I was curious to see if Sherwin Williams could make a good match. After 2 attempts, both were more yellow and not usable. 

Sherwin Williams Worldly Gray, Benjamin Moore White Dove winascoting and trim, oak red stain wood floor, alcove or niche, dining furniture

White Dove with Sherwin Williams Wordly Gray on the walls.

However, several shades are super similar to White Dove and worth comparing. It’s amazing how a subtle tweak in undertone, temperature, or depth can make one color the best shade compared to another.

BENJAMIN MOORE WHITE DOVE COMPARED TO SWISS COFFEE

White Dove and Swiss Coffee are KISSIN’ cousins (illegal in most States, but not on my blog!). However, there are some subtle differences…

  • WHITE DOVE LRV: 83.16
  • SWISS COFFEE LRV: 81.91

The above means that White Dove is whiter than Swiss Coffee, which borders on the off-white range. In my (extensive) experience, White Dove is often a better color than Swiss Coffee.

Medium bronze metal roof, Benjamin Moore Swiss Coffee board and batten and horizontal siding, mahogany front doors, Savannah Gray and Georgetown brick on foundation and steps

Also, of the two, Swiss Coffee is slightly more likely to grab a vague green undertone (vague is an understatement). However, with these two whites being very similar, I prefer White Dove as it’s a bit more predictable.

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WHITE DOVE COMPARED TO BM STEAM

You’ll be hard-pressed to find two white paint colors more similar than White Dove and Steam.

  • WHITE DOVE LRV: 83.16
  • STEAM: 84.2

The above difference is akin to splitting hairs – short curly ones. White Dove and Steam are about the same depth, with Steam fractionally lighter.

Benjamin moore White Dove vs Steam, best warm white paint colors for walls, cabinets, trims

As for undertones, White Dove and Steam share a similar creamy warmth without an abundance of commitment to yellow. However, in comparing the two using tools, Steam is a touch more likely to grab green (still, not a ton). 

WHITE DOVE COMPARED TO SHERWIN WILLIAMS ALABASTER

These are two great comparisons as they approach creamy white warmth quite similarily.

Sherwin Williams Alabaster painted warm white cabinets, subway tile backsplash, maple wood lower cabinets, stainless steel countertop. Emerstone Dynamic Gold white quartz countertop

Yes, the outlet covers need to change, but we’re all at different stages in our decorating journey! 

Both White Dove and Sherwin Williams Alabaster (not to be confused with BM Alabaster, which is MUCH different), have a subtle approach to their creamy warmth. Sure, some find them too yellow, but others don’t find them yellow/creamy enough! It’s super subjective. 

  • WHITE DOVE LRV: 83.16
  • SW ALABASTER LRV: 82

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While the difference in LRV isn’t drastic, it’s enough to set Alabaster as a softer white than White Dove and closer to the off-white range. This can make Alabaster seem a bit more like a creamy shade of white in comparison. 

Sherwin Williams Alabaster coffered warm white painted ceiling, white built in cabinets in sides of fireplace, white mantel

Of the 2, Alabaster is slightly more inclined toward green, but that said, it’s not an undertone that many notice or complain about. 

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DOES SHERWIN WILLIAMS HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHITE DOVE?

I would love to find the perfect match for Benjamin Moore White Dove. However, while Sherwin Williams has similar shades, there’s no perfect match.

Why can’t Sherwin Williams color-match White Dove?

Paint brands use different bases and pigments to make their paints, which means they aren’t starting on the same playing field. Because of this, Sherwin Williams’ version of White Dove comes up more yellow (wooooof).

These colors are your best samples to compare with White Dove…

  • Sherwin Williams Cold Foam: Has a bit more of an interesting yellow undertone compared to White Dove’s more balanced look.
  • Sherwin Williams Cotton: Could look a bit dirtier/dingier, which is good if you find White Dove a touch too colorful/warm.
  • I’d say Sherwin Williams Greek Villa and Alabaster are your best shots at a similar look.

Here’s Greek Villa (lightened) in a dining room and living room. Notice how it shifts its look in each room’s natural lighting – the dining room is west-facing, the living room is south…

shotgun style home, textured walls, dining room in Sherwin Williams Greek Villa lightened, Extra White trim, livingroom throuh doorway (2)

WHAT WALL COLORS GO WITH WHITE DOVE?

Seriously, where do I start and stop? There are so many colors that pair well with White Dove trim or cabinets. Mind you, it depends on where you need a color for: adjoining walls, adjoining room, island paint color, accent wall, etc. Regardless, these colors will get you started…

Family room in split level layout, greige furniture, greige walls and White Dove trim. Kylie M Interiors Edesign, diy decorating and design blogger, consultant

White Dove trim with Benjamin Moore Edgecomb Gray walls

And so much more – White Dove is pretty darn friendly!

BM WHITE DOVE IN KYLIE M INTERIOR’S HOME

Personally, I don’t love yellow or cream paint colors for my own home, but I had White Dove plastered all over it for years and loved it (I had it in another home, which I’ll also show below as its lighting is SO different). 

Benjamin Moore White walls, Open concept kitchen, dining room and living room with painted cabinets, Revere Pewter (darkened) cabinets, Urbane Bronze island.

I still love it, but have recently shifted some rooms to a softer, more organic (off-white) color. But I still have many rooms painted this color, as well as ALL of my trim, ceilings, and most of my doors. 

Here it is in one of our previous homes in a south-facing hallway…

Benjamin Moore White Dove in south-facing hallway, white oak floor (Goodfellow), white trims, walls, doors.

It’s like Frank’s Hot Sauce – I put that $#%!* on everything.

However, in the photo showing the hallway, I chose White Dove, 25% lighter, for that home. I was just CURIOUS to see how it would settle, and I loved it just as much. 

And while I’m one of North America’s leading paint color experts, I’m not a photographer. You get what you get. 

Benjamin MOore White Dove, best white paint color, Sherwin Williams Foggy Day board and batten, orange accent chairs, blue accents, family room

 

Dining room with church pew for bench, white chairs and table, white oak flooring, BEnjamin Moore White Dove paint color onw alls, ceilings

This dining room photo is the home where it’s 25% lighter – walls, trim, ceilings, doors – the whole shebang.

While this next image is missing the art I have on the right side wall, you get the idea…

Sherwin Williams Foggy Day, blue-gray paint color on board and batten in dark hallway, Benjamin Moore White Dove upper walls and ceiling, trims, oak flooring

The above image shows a full-strength White Dove on a wall with decent natural light and a darker hallway. It’s paired with Sherwin Williams Foggy Day on the board n’ batten. 

Anyhoooo, you get the idea. It’s amazeballs and I love it. 

PROS & CONS (CONSIDERATIONS)

  • Benjamin Moore White Dove is a warm, soft white paint color, not a bright white. This makes it versatile for a wide range of finishes and lighting situations
  • It has a yellow undertone, but it’s not strong. If you have true white finishes (e.g., subway tile), it could be a touch too warm. 
  • Its creamy yellow hue doesn’t commit to green or pink, making it versatile. 
  • White Dove suits almost every wood stain.
  • White Dove can be too warm for some of the popular white and soft white quartz countertops and marble backsplashes.
  • It isn’t always warm enough for some of the more traditional granite countertops – make sure you pick the RIGHT WHITE for your products, not just the one you love the most.
  • As a trim color, because White Dove humors such a wide range of paint colors and interior finishes, it’s a great choice for a single room or even a whole home.

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  1. Hoping to paint my walls in White Dove. My trim is KM Swiss Coffee and is in good condition and am hoping to get by without painting it all. I would love to hear your thoughts on how these two colors might work/or not together.

  2. Kylie, would you mind sharing the nice creamy beige color used on the kitchen cabinets in the photo with White Dove on the walls and what looks to be an off-black for the island space? I’m looking for other colors that pair well with White Dove. Thank you!

    1. Hi Jennifer! Believe it or not, but that’s actually Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter slightly darkened. It’s a warm gray with a subtle green undertone! But it sure looks nice with White Dove :). If you want more warmth, considering BM Edgecomb Gray, perhaps 25% darker for a bit more body.

  3. Kylie, I have been following your website for years and it has gone from a simple straight forward website/blough, to a website where I can’t find anything and it doesn’t matter anyway because it is mostly covered with google ads. I don’t like it anymore. Amy Shaffer

    1. Hi Amy, I totally understand! The tricky thing is that I blog for free, I give information out to help others for free and the ad revenue is one way that I support my family. Without it, I actually can’t blog at all!

      1. Hi Kylie,

        I just want to thank you again for all the amazing guidance and information you give your readers! You are head and shoulders above the rest and I have never found your ads to be hurdles to accessing the excellent information you provide!

        Thanks so much!
        Heather

  4. Hi Kylie, I hope you’re doing well. Though I only recently stumbled upon your blog due to an unexpected but necessary remodel in our home, I have to kindly disagree with previous comments that insinuate your website is unhelpful and difficult to navigate – if anything, there is almost too much amazing and helpful info for a novice like myself to take in, and I’m incredibly grateful for your time, talent, and humor! That being said, I’ve been religiously pouring over your blog posts the past few days and have a quick question (if you have time). As I mentioned, we are left doing some unplanned remodeling in our kitchen because of a leak. We have the dated tropical brown granite countertops we are stuck with, but need to paint our cabinets. I’m hopeful to brighten up our kitchen (and simultaneously lighten up the look of the countertops) by painting the cabinets “white.” I know because of the colors in the granite that it needs to be a warm white, but I don’t love “creamy” whites or whites with obvious yellow (i.e. Navajo white). My kitchen has north-facing windows, and I was thinking either ballet white on the walls with white dove cupboards/trim, or white duck walls and edgecomb gray cabinets. Do you have strong thoughts about one combo working better than the other with tropical brown granite countertops? And what things do I need to consider with the color of our wood flooring? Again, super appreciate any time or insight you have – I’d love to do a consult but unfortunately, I have neither enough time or money at the moment. Your blog has been INCREDIBLY helpful getting me started, and I can’t thank you enough!

    1. Teri, what a NICE note to get, thank you! I take those comments to heart and they’re hard for me to read, so thank you for this :).

      Normally I wouldn’t answer questions like this, but I LIKE you and appreciate you. So, I see no problem with trying White Dove on the cabinets and trim (yes, they should be the SAME white), as long as White Dove suits your backsplash too!

      As for wall colour, there are quite a few variations on Tropical Brown, so I can’t be too specific. I can say that I would lean away from anything like White Duck/Ballet White, thinking the could have a touch too much of a yellow base for your countertop. I like the idea of Edgecomb Gray MUCH more.

      I hope this helps or at least ELIMINATES a few thoughts for you :).

      1. Kylie, you are the BEST, and it helped TREMENDOUSLY- it’s a big relief to know I’m in the ballpark! 😉 Thank you so much! Again, I super appreciate your time and am hopeful that if we ever do a PLANNED remodel, I can budget for your E-design services and work with your funny, sassy self directly. All the best. 🙂

  5. I am hoping to paint my cabinets in Dove white but worries it might be too white with my granite.. I have bianco Antico granite… which is a variation of creams/white browns and grey. My walls are Collingwood so if I go with a warmer white I am worries it might just blend in too much with the Collingwood on the walls. What are your thoughts Please…

    I love your page.. your color review videos helped me choose Collingwood for my walls and I am so happy with it.

  6. Hi Kylie – wanted to add to the chorus comments letting you know how great your site is. The way you lay out information is SO helpful for taking notes on different colors and combinations so that I can compare across different colors. Thank you for the wonderful resource. I don’t usually post comments anywhere but the thought that you might have been left with any negative feelings from the previous feedback compelled me to want to try and balance it our by expressing my gratitude and letting you know that your approach and distillation if information is really helpful.

  7. Hi! I was wondering if you knew what percentage the Edgecomb Gray was lightened in the photo with the White Dove trim with lightened Edgecomb Gray walls? Also, do you by any chance know the details for the floor in that photo? Thank you so much!!

    1. Hi Caroline, that’s Edgecomb 75% lighter! The floor is Goodfellow and I believe it was in the Riverside Heights collection or something – stain colour ‘stone’ :).

  8. You had mentioned somewhere that you can brighten up trim paint by adding an additional 4-6 drops of white to the paint. Will that mess with the undertones i.e., whitetail?

    1. Hi Jennifer! Nope, it really shouldn’t. It can make it seem that bit whiter/brighter, but the undertone should still stay soft and yellow 🙂

  9. Hello Kylie – Love your blog and Youtube content.

    We are currently renovating our master bedroom in a minimalist “Japandi” style. I picked out a soft light grey ceramic floor tile, matte black fixtures and a light walnut color vanity cabinet. The bathroom has 2 windows (south and west facing). I would like to keep the wall paint color warm even with white in mind; I was wondering if you would recommend BM White Dove or Plaster of Paris as the wall paint. As well, any recommendations for ceiling and trim color with these 2 potential wall colors?

  10. Hi! I am using alabaster white paint and was curious what color you painted your interior doors! I love the look of the light gray with the white. Thank you

    1. Ahhh, that’s Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter, 25% darker (maaaybe 50%, I can’t remember), but the difference is subtle :).

  11. Your website has helped me so much, and I can’t wait to get the results of my e-consultation! I have one question with Dove White walls/trims/cabinets…what color should the ceiling be? Ceiling paint OK or a mistake? (NW exposure, 8′ ceilings w 3 skylights on the exterior side of the room, large room.) TIA!

  12. Hi i love the color combo of the white dove with the deeper doors and the coordinating staircase baluster post… can u share what the door color and the post color is? Thanks!

    1. Ahhh, that must be the photo with BM Revere Pewter 50% darkened 🙂 That’s my own home and I have Sherwin Williams Urbane Bronze on the railings!

  13. Hi Kylie. Love your paint color reviews. My factory painted kitchen cabinets are similar to White Dove. My backsplash is pale blue glass subway tile and my countertop is a warm, white quartz that reads gray. My trim is SW Extra White, and I don’t want to paint it. The kitchen/great room gets Southern exposure. Can I use White Dove on my walls? Or should I go with something like SW City Loft on walls?

  14. HI Kylie, like so many others here I stumbled on your blog when trying to navigate the crazy world of white and off white paints. i love white dove but a tad bit concerned it might be too dark in the room I’m considering. Do you ever advocate for asking the paint store to do like 75% strength of a color, or do you recommend in general just finding another color that full strength achieves was you want? i have done this in the past and been happy but not sure I’m looking for trouble since I won’t really know what I’ll be getting until I’m already painting. Do you have any thoughts on tweaking colors this way?
    Thank you!

    1. Hey Ilene, HECK YES! I did White Dove 25% lighter on the walls/trims of a home and MADLY LOVE IT. Some whites can’t be adjusted as the undertones change too much or disappear, but White Dove handles it quite nicely!

  15. Thanks for all the great advice! We always turn to your website when we’re starting a new project. Your blogs make color suggestions for walls and trim but not ceilings. How do you chose a ceiling color? Is there a standard color you use for ceilings?
    Thanks

  16. Love your blog. I’ve followed it while building my home. I am looking to paint my exterior in White Dove but cannot because the LRV is too high and our architectural review board only allows paints between 10-80 LRV. Can you suggest a color as close to White Dove with an LRV of 80 or below?

  17. Oh wow, was this ever helpful! I currently have my north facing library with wedding veil and it has funeral vibes. I’m planing to use that space as my counselling office and I’m so happy to find your site – I’m white doving the hell out of that room asap. Thanks!!

    1. What a great comment to get, thank you Melanie! Having used many counsellors in my life – thank you for the work you do ;).

  18. Excellent! Thanks for the update in ’23. My oldest son moved out and we repainted his bright blue room White Dove, to use as a guest room. We were debating the color of the ceiling/trim, but are gonna go with White Dove there, too. TY!!

  19. Hi Kylie! This is so helpful and informative. I love Revere Pewter on the doors. In the picture you have with the doors and stairway, is White Dove on the walls and trim as well? I want to match it in mine! The trim looks brighter than the walls in the photo. Also, what color is the staircase railings? Is that a dark brown with black iron as well? It’s so beautiful. Thank you so much in advance!!

    1. Hey Annika! That’s actually my own home where I played around with Edgecomb Gray and did it 75% lighter on the walls! The staircase railing is Sherwin Williams Urbane Bronze :). I liiiiiked the walls, but found it a bit too non-committal for me so did my walls White Dove instead 🙂

  20. Hi Kylie,
    I am enjoying your website with your thoughtful write-ups and colour analysis:)

    I am in love with the picture of the kitchen with the dark blue subway tile. Would you kindly tell me what brand and colour of counter, tile, and cabinet colour you used?

    Thank you!
    Ange

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